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Clicky the cut for my personal musing on one TOS Trek character. YMMV. No idea what's been up with me lately, but this particular character's been giving me all the dang feels. Sharding adorable high-strung choirboy. I need to rewatch movies 2-4, or something. Maybe that'll de-clog my subconscious. What say, [personal profile] meimichan? I give you permission to laugh at me all you want.


Things Pavel Andreievich Chekov is absolutely categorically bloody not:

*a sly, manipulative schemer hiding reems of wicked knowledge behind an innocent facade

*the ship's bicycle, see both above and below

*promiscuous to a ridiculous degree; he's canonically interested in women, but somehow, a wild and misspent boyhood in Russia carrying over to dealings on the ship just does not compute, at all

*17, dammit, he openly says 22 in a TOS episode and that's what I'm sticking with, all the love to his alternate counterpart where it's due

Date: 2017-12-29 06:40 pm (UTC)
technoshaman: Tux (Default)
From: [personal profile] technoshaman
Oh, I dunno, that Chekov is a *sneak*.... and don't call him "tiny"!

As for women, I think he just likes to look.. perhaps having gotten burned a few times?

Date: 2017-12-29 06:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] we_are_spc
I see him as a good sneak, though. Not one who uses his sneak for his own gain. Which I feel like is what is being implied here.

-Fallon~

Date: 2017-12-29 08:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] technoshaman
Unlike ol' James Tiberius, mackin' on somebody every time you turn around...

Titus Flavius Bro-sephus, that one.

Date: 2017-12-29 09:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] technoshaman
.... somewhat. I think (temporarily) losing Spock kinda mellowed him out...

I'm still much more a TNG fan. Besides, there's something about having a real Shakespearian actor in the lead role that just takes everyone to a new level....

(One of my few major regrets was missing Sir Patrick in The Tempest while I was working in NYC... *sigh*)

Date: 2017-12-29 10:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] we_are_spc
Sisko's my fave, too! At least of DS9...As for Voyager. 7 of 9 all the way....

:d

-Fallon~

Date: 2017-12-29 10:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] technoshaman
Spock was much more approachable in the books. You learnt *why* he was the way he was...

Sisko... now, that there was a cultured bad-ass. Picard was good in a scrap, especially vs. the Borg, but Sisko was *better*. And, yeah, I prefer Sisko's jazz to Picard's classical. Oooh. Sisko and Riker jamming....

Sulu as captain.. "Come on, COME ON!" He gained a LOT of intensity with those pips... we never got the chance to really warm up to him, but yeah, he was every bit the warrior in his own fashion that Sisko was.

And Beverly wasn't so bad either as a captain! Methodical, but *fast*, the way a surgeon has to be.

Jean-Luc finally came off his high horse at the very end of the series, dealing in to the holodeck poker game... there were a *lot* of things that got fixed in that sequence. And I'll never forget the end of Nemesis.... Lord Nelson's toast...

(Speaking of captains, I'm a big fan of Honor Harrington continuing the "ancient" British navy tradition of the officers dining together... those conversations seriously contribute to their bonding as a team.... )

Date: 2017-12-30 06:24 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] we_are_spc
Pass them? I mean...I need to look to see if I have any first.

I'm going ot miss my ex's connections to music and things. He gave me so damn much before he went to far-most of which I cannot get to now that I am no longer in the graces with him-and if I have anything to say for it, won't be for a life time or more.

...

But dammit, I'm still having a hard time with a lot of things. *sighs*

-Fallon~

Date: 2018-01-01 08:03 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] technoshaman
There was a LOT of flap in fandom over what Spock did to Valeris.

I think most of the cues were audible; there were looks exchanged between Riker and Worf, but other than that, not much you missed.

Sisko ... It's funny how having an alien spirit alongside will give you a good command sense. (q.v. Jeffrey Sinclair of Babylon 5) Sulu... has the warrior spirit of a samurai, but the joie de vie of hanging out with an Enterprise crew... that can teach even a Klingon how to let his hair down. :)

I think my favourite "out of no where" shot was a freshly-re-integrated Spock from STIV:STW:

"Spock, where the hell's the power you promised?"
"One damn minute, Admiral!"

Jimbo SO had that coming! :)

James Tiberius Flavius Brosephus... :)

Date: 2018-02-06 02:06 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] technoshaman
My bad. "Tiny" Sulu. Checkov is still a sneak. "Admiral...."

What the everloving...

Date: 2017-12-29 06:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] we_are_spc
17? Eff that.

Seriously; make him at least 18; he should at least be abole to concent to shit if they're going to put him in NC-17 dirty situations.

But yes, 22 is where I'd place him too, the rest of this aside.

-Fallon~

Re: What the everloving...

Date: 2017-12-29 10:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] we_are_spc
Ug...*sighs*depending on the story, not mine, either. Seriously. *sighs*

-Fallon~

Date: 2018-01-02 04:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redsixwing
Heee. I clicked through hoping it was Chekov.

Date: 2018-01-03 03:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redsixwing
I read "Sharding adorable high-strung choirboy," and went, that just has to be! XD

I've tried reading some TOS fic and have a very difficult time finding anything that treats my favorites how I feel they ought to be treated, but then, most of my engagement with it comes from books and not from the actual episodes..? So that's a thing.

Date: 2018-01-04 04:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redsixwing
He /is/ :3

I won't go looking.
(I have some fic out there that is pretty awful myself. School!Six had /very/ different tastes and a poorer command of language. My unfortunate love of semicolons is consistent throughout.)

Given my character tastes, I probably should refrain from recommendation - I focused hard on anything having to do with Spock or other Vulcan characters - but it's the novels that led to my love of Star Trek in the first place, followed shortly by DS9 and TNG, in that order. And Chekov, and Sulu, and on and on.

If you do find gems, do you post fic recs? :D I sort of burned myself out after the last round of trying to find some, and mostly running afoul of Sturgeon's Law.

Date: 2018-01-05 04:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redsixwing
Ohh thank you! I haven't read His Dark Materials, but I'm pretty much always down for psychological angst.

Bashir <3

I'm excited to hear more about your Valeris fic. I liked her and thought the resolution of her plot arc was .. uh, is forced putting too fine a point on it? Not a shining moment. /mutter I felt like her motivations and reasoning were not well explored, but then, that's fertile ground for fandom.

Poor Sonak indeed! I haven't read things with him in them, but then, I stopped reading the tie-in books for a while recently. ^^; It would be fun to know more about him, if a bit bittersweet because: ending.

Date: 2018-01-09 07:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redsixwing
Yeah! And Garak and Odo and Dax -

What can I say, I'm a fan of morally grey, and DS9 does that so, so well while retaining heart and relatability.

Huzzah for better~

I really did like Tuvock, and all his little moments of warmth that the kolinaaru (intentionally, deservedly) miss. Sonak would be lovely in that sort of a role. I like a little masked willingness to bend, too; there's saying it aloud and then there's communicating it in all the silent, eloquent ways the Vulcans have.

Singer, appreciator of arts -

I would read the heck out of this.

I'm missing a reference here. What's Timeheart?

Date: 2018-01-15 03:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redsixwing
... Yup. A lot of it is visual. In particular he does things with very subtle facial expressions and expressive eyebrows. He's easier to read than someone like the kolinaaru group in Search for Spock, or even Sarek.

Hee! Well, you have an audience. ;)

Ah, thanks. That does sound interesting.
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