having now seen Miraculer

[chanter1944]

We have a canonical detransformation phrase for Rena Rouge. I did not imagine that would be it. ... Eh, it works.

The peafowl miraculous manifests feathers, as opposed to the butterfly miraculous's obvious means or the black cat's dark orb, as vessels for its empowerments? Ah. Do the feathers attach themselves to the person they're connecting to, i.e. what an akuma does, or do the sentimonsters form around the feathers, with the connection being an entirely magical, nonphysical one?

So the peafowl miraculous enhances and hones emotions at the same time it creates a physical manifestation of them, linked specifically to the person it's empowering (Auguste's lollipop monster)... I can work with that. I can very much work with that. And so can Émilie, though with positive emotions or intentions rather than negative ones. *works on this AU a bit more*

... Holy crap, Chloé got herself a ways along a redemption arc there! She fought off an akuma through sheer determination not to let Ladybug's faith in her be misplaced. Gal's got depths I didn't think she had. I'm really hoping that *isn't* the last time she's called upon to be Queen Bee.

Carapace: "Not on my watch!" <3! And did I mention <3? Because <3!

Awwww, Sabrina. Speaking of loyalty... I'm still working on a ficlet about wielder!Sabrina, as opposed to her with an evil ride-along. She deserves better than near-thankless sidekick duties again and again. And speaking of, what was that on-camera line of Nadja's about "sidekicks" Rena Rouge and Carapace? I hope Rena Rouge in particular didn't get wind of *that* one... Carapace might well take it mostly (mostly, mind you) in stride, but I can easily see a righteously ticked-off fox resulting, especially given how instrumental she was against Miraculer later on.

And, hmm. Hawkmoth is at least resigned to the peafowl miraculous being in use, damaged or not, since Mayura is active and actively working with him in this episode. Is she just another aspect in his plans now, or has he expressed further concern for/to Nathalie when the masks are off? I'd honestly suspect the latter, but I doubt canon will ever go there.

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[alexseanchai]

yeah, I've seen "let's bounce" in Rena fic, I put "let's flounce" in "falling hot and real" and then I yelled a lot when "Miraculer" came out, and you'll notice all the other transformation phrases are sensible pairs. Spots on, spots off. Claws out, claws in. Buzz on, buzz off. Shell on; I don't remember as we heard Carapace's but "shell off" fits the pattern perfectly. Noun, preposition. Noun, opposite preposition. Butterfly is different: wings rise, wings fall. Noun, verb. Noun, opposite verb. Not horribly different. Dunno if you've gotten to "Timetagger" yet; it is a different pattern entirely, grammatically speaking, but it fits the thing where the phrases are opposite directions of action, and the phrases still sound really, really alike.

Given "let's pounce", therefore, we want a verb that is (1) the opposite direction of 'pounce' (2) sounds similar to 'pounce'. Yes?

…"rest" is not that verb.

And between the production codes of the episodes aired to date and the way Ladybug already knows a lot more about how Mayura operates than the episode of that name told us, we're pretty sure the episodes aired viciously out of order and things will make more sense once "Reflekdoll" is out. since that's production code 305, "Miraculer" is 309, and the second earliest production code that we haven't got the episode yet is 311.

oh also: M I R A C U L E R. and now that I have fixed my own spelling, R E F L E K D O L L.

[chanter1944]

I've seen "shell off" in fics often enough to take it as read, if not as heard, as Carapace's detransformation key phrase. As for Rena Rouge, her wording doesn't entirely fit the pattern (yes, I have seen Timetagger, and Bunnyx's phrases fit thematically as well as excellently), but I still think "let's pounce/let's rest" suits an energetic fox quite well. *shrugs* YMMV.

Miraculer? Ah shoot! I was thinking it was a play on spectacular. *fixes* Cheers.

Re Mayura: I wondered about that! It's not as though anyone has used the word sentimonster, or even seen a sentimonster save the first instance of one, in aired episodes between Mayura's first appearance and Miraculer, and yet Ladybug knows exactly what's going on. You're right: Something must be out of order airing-wise.

[alexseanchai]

a play on "spectacular" would make more sense anyway!

[chanter1944]

Especially given what both Chloé and Sabrina were aiming for, not to mention Hawkmoth's larger plan. *mumbles at whoever titled this ep*

[alexseanchai]

Since the French name is M I R A C U L E U R, I'm guessing where we're actually meant to be going with this is it's a "one who verbs" type noun where the verb means something like "wields Miraculous power". As opposed to "performs miracles", which in English I think would be M I R A C L E R?

[chanter1944]

Ah. It makes more sense in French, if it's meant to read like pseudo-wielder, or one who wields miraculous power. You'd think M i r a c u l a r would be a fair translation into English then, wouldn't you? One who wields spectacular power or miraculous amounts of power? I'm admittedly playing with the word miraculous there, as adjective as opposed to noun. Acch *shrugs* whatever.

[alexseanchai]

Apparently the rule in English is, to turn a verb into a "one who verbs" noun, add the E R suffix if the verb ends in a single consonant: V E R B E R, one who verbs. There are other rules for E R versus O R, none of which apply here. A R can be used for this purpose, but is much more commonly used to adjective nouns: spectacle, spectacular. I do not know the rules in French, but the verb we are attempting to noun here is probably more M I R A C U L something than M I R A C L E.

[chanter1944]

Fair enough re grammar rules. It's still an awkward construction, or maybe I'm just tripping over the fact that miraculer isn't a common word in English.

[alexseanchai]

Lost Heart (24383 words) by quicksilversquared
Chapters: 6/26
Fandom: Miraculous Ladybug
Rating: General Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Relationships: Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir/Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Ladybug
Characters: Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir, Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Ladybug, Nathalie Sancoeur, Gabriel Agreste | Papillon | Hawk Moth, Nino Lahiffe, Alya Césaire, Tikki (Miraculous Ladybug), Plagg (Miraculous Ladybug), Emilie Agreste
Additional Tags: heartless!Nathalie, curses and magic, incorporates some S3 canon, yeets the rest out the window because who needs it really, bossvillain!Nathalie, S3 spoilers, Fake Dating, Identity Reveal, despite initial appearances this isn't a Nathalie-centric fic I promise, she's just the...catalyst per say
Summary:

Magic can be a dangerous thing to play around with, particularly when that magic is tangled up in a curse. When Nathalie Sancoeur experiments with magic that she doesn't fully understand, it sends her on a path to become Paris' most dangerous supervillain and tips the balance between superheroes and supervillain.

But which way will the balance fall?